[Fixed for V0.41] DM II Demo

bellis · Post by **bellis** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 9:05 pm

Hi and thanks for RTC..

Just one question.

Is all the spells for DM II implemented ?
I cant get some of them to work ..

// Bellis

beowuuf · Post by **beowuuf** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 9:14 pm

I assume the answer to be 'not yet'

George Gilbert · Post by **George Gilbert** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 10:08 pm

I think they all do apart from the minion ones - if you know of any others that don't, please let me know.

Post by **Lunever** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 4:14 pm

I noticed that the physical aura spells (OhEwKu and OhEwRos) affect the whole party, as they are supposed to do, but the mental ones (OhEwDain and OhEwNeta) affect only the caster, albeit they are also supposed to be aura spells for the whole party. I think that should be fixed for V0.41 .

George Gilbert · Post by **George Gilbert** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 7:38 pm

Ah yes, that's just a typo in the txt file - now fixed.

Post by **Lunever** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 11:36 pm

Very minor optical quirk: The Tech-Mace is only glowing when it is in the right hand, it should glow in either hand

Post by **Lunever** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 6:00 pm

Since I never played DM2 much and only long ago, I'm not sure: Is the ghost in the crypt really supposed to have the invincible flag?

George Gilbert · Post by **George Gilbert** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 6:40 pm

No it's not, and I've already removed the flag for V0.41!

Post by **Lunever** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 9:10 pm

So, I finally had enough time at the machine that does run the DM2 demo and have played through completely.

Leaving aside a couple of minor inaccuracies and the rather view crashes it produced, and of course leaving aside that my equipment is a bit out-dated, I have to say, I'm very impressed and I think it's astonishing that this is just the second release of RTC's DM2 demo, or the third counting in Lighthouse's initial work. "To be continued...", absolutely!!

I'm curious how long it will be until the first custom dungeons based on the new DM2 stuff will be available.

Post by **Lunever** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 11:20 pm

Although they don't have the invincible flag, I just don't manage to kill a Vortex, not even if I corner one and pump 2300 Mana of MonDesEw into one (that should kill an archmaster vortex, shouldn't it)? Trying to attack with a Vorpal Balde is also without success, even by well-equipped On-masters with a complete 255-aura. What am I missing?

Post by **Lunever** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 11:25 pm

Oh, and the green gems in the caverns don't seem to regrow as they should (I checked there regularly, even after long periods of time, no gem regrow though).

And Beo just made me aware in Flashchat that there is/will be a puzzle inside castle skullkeep, that the RTC engine won't be able to handle. In FTL-DM2 you could click any item even from under a pile as long as some of its grafix was visible, so for the Zo-link you could slip the skeleton key from under the onyx key. RTC would need a severe engine modification or some workaround in order to prevent this puzzle from getting broken right away (says Beo - to be honest I only vaguely remember that puzzle).

beowuuf · Post by **beowuuf** » Wed Jul 05, 2006 11:46 pm

:) Well, not the engine mod, you will jsut need to do soemthing else for that puzzle...not let a party walk off that tile with both keys, or soemthing...

Hopefully I remmeber this puzzle right!

George Gilbert · Post by **George Gilbert** » Thu Jul 06, 2006 12:11 am

Gems growing back - that's just silly; it takes millions of years for that to happen!

As for the bio-magnet puzzle, I think it can be done with the existing mechanics...Ill give it a try and see.

George Gilbert · Post by **George Gilbert** » Thu Jul 06, 2006 12:13 am

BTW, the Vortexes don't have the invincible flag set, but I think they do have perfect armour which would explain why you can't kill them!

Post by **Ameena** » Thu Jul 06, 2006 12:14 am

Bah, gems growing only takes millions of years WITHOUT magic

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Daecon · Post by **Daecon** » Thu Jul 06, 2006 4:18 am

Yeah, there aren't enough runes in the magical alphabet...

Post by **Lunever** » Thu Jul 06, 2006 8:34 am

Gems - yes, takes ages geologically. But since they DO grow back in FTL-DM2, they should do so also in RTC-DM2.

So is the Vortices perfect armour a bug or not? I think they should be killable.

George Gilbert · Post by **George Gilbert** » Thu Jul 06, 2006 9:52 am

Lunever wrote:So is the Vortices perfect armour a bug or not? I think they should be killable.

Depends on if you consider a Vortex to be a natural phenomenon or a monster really...

KlausM · Post by **KlausM** » Thu Jul 06, 2006 10:27 am

there are some more "bugs":

The DM2 torch is linked wrong, if you use it, it becomes a dm1 torch on convert.

The Monsters shouldn't mixed up in the terrain (e.g. thorn demons only in own area)

There are more thorn demons generated by monster generator in FTL-DM2 , and they push you back when hit you.

Post by **Lunever** » Thu Jul 06, 2006 12:21 pm

Well, I consider Vortices to be rather monsters, like kinda air elementals, and would make them susceptible to DesEw and Vorpal Blades, like water elementals and black flames. But to determine how to handle it in RTC I'd rather compare it to FTL-DM2. I think I remember them to be killable, but since it's long ago I'm not perfectly sure.

Post by **Lunever** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 7:05 pm

I started a game of O-DM once more, after having completed the DM2 demo, and there is 1 single, slightly annyoing difference:

While the well-working item-auto-placement of RTC made me use ninjas much more in RTC's DM1&CSB than in FTL-DM, I do not really use ninjas in DM2 because, as mentioned in other context before, it is currently incompatible with the quiver items. This does not matter in DM1/CSB, since there are no quiver items in these by default, but in DM2 it does matter. If the auto-placement could just also place items in containers held in a hand or the quiver inventory slot, at least for missiles (i.e. arrows & slayers, maybe rocks too), this problem would disappear I think.

George Gilbert · Post by **George Gilbert** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 9:27 pm

All now fixed for V0.41...

...apart from the gems - I've got a cunning plan for them...

Post by **Lunever** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 9:54 pm

Now I wonder what that cunning plan could possibly be...