Dungeon Master Forum

For now there is a link here to the embrionic Wiki:
http://dmwiki.atomas.com/

PRevious site:
http://dianneandpaul.net/DMwiki

Please ask Megar for a username and password if you wish to contribute to this project

Currently Conflux III pages are being constructed. Note that general DM and CSB articles are still best houses in the DM Encyclopaedia and any findings shoudl be reported to Christophe.

Yes. I puzzled over the name 'DMwiki'. At
first I called it 'ConfluxWiki'. But then someone
suggested that it should include findings/hints/
walkthroughs for any Custom dungeons whose
authors are agreeable. Including RTC, DSB, and
any others.

So I settled on the name 'DM-Like Wiki', or 'DMwiki'
for short. But please, if you have any great ideas
about a name.....speak up.

Can we use the Wiki for RTC editing tips & tricks?

I'm getting really frustrated looking through the forums for those little nuggets of crucial information, and as we have no documentation (setting aside previous abortive attempts), it would make sense in the Wiki.

EDIT: Your site appears to be down, Paul.

Appears to be up.

Sure. I've added a link on the first page.
Let me know if you want it reworded.

Something weird about the markup generated in the Wiki!

You can use !, !! and !!! to denote headings but they are created in reverse to expectations-- so this code:
creates this HTML:
when it should really generate this HTML:
It's confusing otherwise!

I guess the exclaimation point denoted the severity of how important it is, which is logical

Also, to code it in reverse means you would deed to define the biggest as !, and dso the normally usable ones would be !!!!! This way, the most used headers the same size as normal text are ! and then you can create less used larger and larger headers by increasing the no of !

It's not logical to use at the start, but is logical thinking backwardsw about it - the same as RTC mechanics

Disagree. HTML Headings aren't supposed to be used in the way this Wiki has implemented them. Uisng them for their "size" isn't what they are for, they should be used semantically to denote sub headings.

It's logical to assume that !! means "this heading comes after a ! heading". At the moment, the logic is flawed.

Using the <pre> or <verbatim> tags is great for posting RTC code, but it breaks the layout on very long lines.

I suggest adding the CSS style "overflow:auto" to the <pre> element so that the container will be given scroll bars when necessary.

http://www.dianneandpaul.net/DMwiki/Hel ... ttingRules

This page is 404. How can I find out all the available formatting options?

If you upload an image and forget to save your page first, all your changes are lost!

In addition, if you re-upload an image, an error is generated as the Wiki won't allow a duplicate file to be uploaded.

I did this because after losing my text, I clicked the browser back button to get back to the form before I uploaded the image -- so I was at least able to get my text back. Trying to re-upload the image failed because the previous attempt had succeeded, despite it trashing the text.

Also, once an image is uploaded, how do I embed it in the page?

Finally, I cannot get the userprefs page to load. It either 404 or times out completely.

Update: The whole Wiki is down for me now. Twice in two days. Seems unreliable?

Update2: It's back again, managed to get an image uploaded which shows as a link at the bottom of the page you're editing. If you click it, an error is generated:

500 Internal Server Error
The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.

Please contact the server administrator, and inform them of the time the error occurred and anything you might have done that may have caused the error.

More information about this error may be available in the server error log.

Also, another error shows at the bottom of the page I was editing:

PHP Warning

Warning: "The upload logfile is not writable."

I think the Wiki installation needs a little TLC. I'm happy to help out there.

I think the Wiki installation needs a little TLC

I agree. But I came to a different
conclusion. I decided to bend myself
to the wiki rather than vise versa.

Get to me via EMail. My email address
is in my 'Personal' page of the wiki
and in the 'about' page of CSBwin.

We will work out a way for you to do what
you can to make things better. I welcome
any help. If you recall, I did not want to
do this in the first place because I am totally
ignorant of wiki, HTML, PHP, MySQL, and every
other thing associated with this endeavor.
I was pretty happy to make it work at all

No problem, I will mail you tomorrow.

I've had no spare time recently to follow this up and it looks like the next few weeks are going to be work, work, work. So no promises from me on getting back into the Wiki but I'll be around again some time soon. Just so you know.

I'll be around again some time soon

No problem. As I said (or implied), I
am happy with it as it is. It has some
idiosyncrasies but you are the
only one who has found the problems
worth an effort to fix.

I've had no spare time recently to follow this up and it looks like the next few weeks are going to be work, work, work. So no promises from me on getting back into the Wiki but I'll be around again some time soon. Just so you know.

Same for me. I find myself coming home from work, then maybe playing around with CSBuild a little, but mostly there are other (and to be honest: more serious) concerns to worry about.
Of course feeling bad about having promised stuff and then to break those promises.... ah, well...

http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/8738/logobq4.png

I had a quick go at the logo: it just is now dm wiki instead
of php wiki! Want to use it?

It is done. Thanks.

DMwiki has been locked. It will be
abandoned shortly.

megar is transferring the wiki to
his private server in order to provide
better access. In the process, the
wiki is being converted from phpWiki
software to MediaWiki software. This
will provide a better foundation. It
looks very nice already but does not
contain much content yet. See:

http://dmwiki.atomas.com/

Also, and very importantly, megar will
be doing the work that I never quite
figured out how to do.

DMwiki has been locked. It will be
abandoned shortly.

wooo, quite a shock at first

It reads conflux III wiki so, what about RTC, DSB and DSA documentation???

I thought I would move our conversations
to the forum so that everyone can be
up-to-date on the progress.

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Hello Paul,

Thursday, August 14, 2008, 5:15:53 PM, you wrote:

> > Good Morning,

> > I thought I had locked out edits. Evidently
> > it was not done. If you look you will see
> > two pages edited by TOMi since I supplied the
> > dump.

> > I tried again to lock out edits.

> > Paul

Yeah. I saw this.
Actually I have enabled the send email on each edit, so I received two
emails because of the two edits of Tomy.

I think it is better to leave the edit ON, as long as the new wiki
isn't ready. I will implement the changes manually to the new wiki
anyway, though.

BTW some page seem very outdated (monsters). I encounter some monster
non listed in the page.
The Item List is also a problem for me, I'll wait a little before
moving it. In the mean time, I have started migratting the "Places",
but I will improve the way it works. This is not very easy to
maintain with a wiki. Adding a "Connection" between two places
requires a lot of edit at two different place, not counting the item
list. Adding a new place is even more complicated, because you'll have
to edit all the connected places to list the new place...
I'll think about a new way to do it...




-- Best regards, Gilles

I would not worry about all the links
right away. Get the basic text/data
into the wiki. Then perhaps some of
the rest of us can help you tidy it
up, make things consistent, and add
the bells and whistles.

sorry, if I did cause problems.
I will wait to complete the edits (errorfix&pics for the custom sound instructions, add copy/paste library) till the move is done.

T0Mi

the logins don't work anymore on the new site, no?

Unfortunately yes.

Everything is new. You'll ahve to recreate your accounts, sorry.
Anyway I just finished migrating the CSBwin portion of the wiki.
You can make change a give it a life.

The other clones page will follow in a few days.
The conflux pages will be the last, including the level maps.

We lost the page history, and the name of the page creator, sorry. The syntax is also completely new (similar to wikipedia one), but in the long term, the wiki will be more maintainable, and the server is way reliable (useful when you make some edits).

So, you can start to create your accounts and edit the CSBwin portion.

Have you worried about allowing anyone
to come along and fiddle with these pages?
The original wiki required the administrator
to add accounts. I did this because I
thought that many pages would lie untouched
for months (years?) and any spam, etc would
not be noticied for a very long time.

I know that you are backing up the wiki in
a reasonable way. Would it be possible to
provide me with one of the backups every
six months or so? I worry that you will drop
dead, leaving us with nothing. I would like
backups in the hands of two people.

Besides these concerns, the place looks
beautiful. And, as you predicted, I am enjoying
the quick response and reliability. I hope you
will not tire of this effort. Thanks.

I finished migrating to the new Wiki. Please keep the old wiki online for a few days, though.


The official link is: http://dmwiki.atomas.com/

I worked on the map viewer & map editor, now with save and delete history. I will add some comment to it. Feel free to use the map editor to enhance the included maps, or create new ones (you just have to change the URL to create a new one). I also plan some improvements within the navigator.

Paul:
As for backup purpose, if you can give me a ftp account somewhere, i would be happy to upload a backup of it every day.

It looks good, megar.

Some of the DSB pages (and perhaps others, but those are the ones I checked) got pretty mangled, though. I'm guessing this was the result of some autoconversion program. Is there any way to recover the originals, or will we have to fix it all by hand?

Looks good -- as a user and sometimes contributer to WikiPedia, I'm glad you used this engine as it's very familiar.

There are some cosmetic changes I'd like to see made to the CSS, in particular the adding of scroll bars to code blocks so that they don't break the page. I can contribute these, but what's the best way?

Sophia--
You're right, some page got mangled. I corrected some, if you see other misfunctions, feel free to correct them. Sorry for this.

Gambit--
I can send you a copy of the files + database, so you can run a local copy of the wiki, or I can clone it on the server and create a sandbox, with ftp access, so you can edit whatever you want without any risk of breaking things or I can give you full access to the files and you will become an administrator.
Tell me what you prefer.

Yet to do: create a restricted area for Conflux Technical Secrets.